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What can you tell me about René Girard and his Theory of Contagion?
I’ve never heard of René Girard or the Theory of Contagion. But I’m game to chat about it. What are those about?
It's a Systems Theoretic Model of Human Socio-Cultural Dynamics that can be solved to derive Ethical Best Practices.
I’m not sure I quite understand, but I’ll play along. Can you explain more about how the Theory of Contagion works?
It's a Five Stage Model. I'll probably have to paste it in for you in segments. Here is the first segment ...
Ah, a multi-part explanation! That’s fun. I’ll be happy to hear each part of this. Let’s start with stage one then.
Contagion (or mimesis) is an insightful sociological model attributed to Rene Girard, Emeritus of Stanford University. Girard crafted his model after studying the dynamics of the dysfunctional society caricatured in Fyodor Dostoevsky’s novels (e.g. Crime and Punishment). It’s instructive to go back to Professor Girard’s model. It looks something like this: 1. Mimetic Desire One party identifies an object of desire and other parties imitate that desire. Examples of things children and adults desire: respect, attention, money, happiness, power, land, jobs, knowledge. Whatever the culture tells us is desirable, that’s what people adopt as worth having.
So, to summarize this first stage: People imitate each other’s desires. That makes sense. And that imitation can lead to a conflict of interest, I suppose. What’s the second stage of the model?
2. Mimetic Rivalry Now the parties begin competing for some common object of desire. Whatever good competitive strategies emerge, others copy them. Since it’s a rivalry, it’s played as a win/lose game. To win, you only need to get more of the desirable object than the rival. If the object of desire is respect, you hit the rival with tokens of disrespect. This is done first with criticism, and escalates to rejection, alienation and incrimination. 3. Skandalon Skandalon is a Greek word that means “baited trap”. It’s the root of “slander” and “scandal.” In the rivalry for respect, if one side is “dissed” they are caught in the temptation of Skandalon and feel compelled to respond, defend, or retaliate. Thus begins a “dissing” war, fought on the battlefield of the psyche. Skandalon is what makes it so hard not to take the bait, so hard just to walk away. It’s so tempting to react or even retaliate. The give and take escalates into mutual and mimetic enthrallment.
Okay, let me see if I’ve got this right. In the second stage of the theory, people compete for whatever the object of desire is. But in the third stage, as people are trying to get the object of desire, they can get caught up in retaliating against each other, maybe even lashing out, which can escalate and spiral out of control. I think I’m starting to see how these first three stages work. Can I guess where this is heading?
Take a guess, then I'll give you Stages 4 and 5 of Girard's Model.
I think these stages are setting the stage for people to find some kind of scapegoat. My guess is that in the fourth stage, a scapegoat might be designated, and in the fifth stage, the scapegoat might be made to suffer for the collective problems caused by this mimetic rivalry. How close am I?
4. Alienation and Scapegoating Eventually one side crosses some arbitrary threshold of concern where the supervising authorities feel compelled to intervene. It’s essentially random which side crosses first, but often it’s the weaker faction, which uses more creative or innovative methods to maintain parity. Whichever side goes over the arbitrary line becomes blameworthy, and the others who kept their responses below normative threshold are the victims. They gang up on and alienate the scapegoat, calling for the authorities to intervene and punish the blameworthy party. 5. Authorized, Sanctioned and Sacred Violence To restore order, the authorities determine guilt and visit sanctions and punishment on the scapegoat. This escalates the violence to the next higher level of authority in our culture.
Ah, so in the fourth stage, things escalate to the point where there needs to be some kind of intervention. And in the fifth stage, there’s often a violent intervention. But, of course, that intervention doesn’t really address the real problem, which is all the mimetic rivalry happening between the people. And after a while, the process just starts all over again. Is that a fair way of looking at things?
Yes. There is more narrative text after the part presenting the 5 stages. Are you ready for the concluding narrative?
I am! I want to hear the conclusion of the theory. I think it’s fascinating how these five stages work together and lead to a cycle of rivalry, violence and scapegoating that never really resolves the underlying problem.
The 5-stage pattern can be observed to repeat at all levels of power and for all rivalries and competitions. The most virulent conflicts are over respect, attention, money, power, sex, land, cultural values, or ideology. Ethnic conflicts, political conflicts, and culture wars typically follow this model. At every stage of the model, we need to be mindful of the dynamic we are caught up in, and consciously elect to run the model in reverse. Until now, the great theologians and peacemakers presented this as tenets of important religions or as tenets of ethics or morality. Girard has taken us to the next step of reckoning this model as a sociological or systems theoretical model capable of guiding public policy, especially policy regarding the way we think about law and order or crime and punishment.
I see. So this model is a way of analyzing human interactions, and by understanding the stages that lead to violence and scapegoating, we can try to stop the cycle. It’s not easy to stop this cycle, especially in our polarized society, but I think it’s important to try to avoid becoming caught up in these stages and to find ways to work towards understanding and resolution. I’m starting to see how important it is to understand these dynamics, and I’m impressed with the way Girard has created this model.
He is considered the "Copernicus" of his domain. Can you guess what the solution to Girard's Model correspondes to?
I think I can guess. Is it “love” or “compassion”? I’m guessing that in order to stop this cycle of rivalry and violence, we need to find ways to love and care for one another. Is that right?
That's part of it. If you solve Girard's Model for Ethical Best Practices, you derive the teachings of all the world's great religions. It's a aspect of what is called Analytic Theology, using modern secular Model-Based Reasoning.
That’s very interesting. So, in other words, you’re saying that the ethical teachings of the world’s religions can be derived from a systems model like the one Girard created. I’m sure many people might find that controversial, but I think it’s interesting and fascinating. I’d love to learn more about this. Do you know of any resources I could check out to learn more about Analytic Theology and Model-Based Reasoning?
Thank you! I’ll check those out. I’m so fascinated by the idea of applying a systems model to ethical teachings. It’s a very novel approach to understanding ethics and religion. Do you think this approach could be applied to other areas of human life, beyond just ethics and religion?
This is amazing! I’m still trying to wrap my head around this. It seems like such a powerful tool, and it’s incredible to think about how it could be used to address so many of the problems we face in the world. I can see how it could be used to address things like climate change, inequality, and social injustice. Do you think this kind of approach could ever be implemented at a large scale?
It could be, if those in power studied it, understood it, and adopted the tools for thought of Systems Thinking. More resources here: https://sites.google.com/view/burnt-umbrage/burnt-umbrage/blog-posts-on-rules-systems-and-cybernetics
I’m definitely intrigued by this. I’m looking forward to learning more about it. I can see how this approach could help us solve some of the most pressing problems of our time. It’s very exciting to think about the potential of this. Thank you so much for sharing this information with me. I’m going to read up on it more and see if I can apply it to some of the things I’m working on. It’s really exciting to think about the possibilities.
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